Thursday, May 23, 2013

Why ocean warming and sea level rise from CO2 is not possible

This post from the Dutch "Climate Fraud" site builds on prior Hockey Schtick posts explaining why infrared back-radiation from greenhouse gases cannot heat the oceans or cause sea-level rise from thermal expansion, including:

Google translation from the Dutch "Climate Fraud" site:


6 comments:

  1. Is the heating and/or evaporation properties of the ocean affected by it's Ph balance?

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    1. No, it is a function of penetration depth of infrared radiation from greenhouse gases, which is only a few millionths of a meter, and does not change with pH.

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  2. Anyone that has seen a hot water heater will note that the heater is on the bottom. It heats the water around the element and the heated water rises to be replaced by the colder water which is heated, ad infinitum. If the heater was on the top, the top portion (above the heater would get hot, the thermostat would shut off and the rest of the tank would stay cold. The rest of the tank stays col because HOT water rises, and it is not the best conductor of heat. It stagers the imagination as to how anyone can conceive of the sun shining down on the ocean making the ocean heat to any appreciable depth.

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    1. Well, what really staggers the imagination is how anyone can conceive of infrared radiation from greenhouse gases making the ocean heat to any appreciable depth.

      Solar wavelengths penetrate water up to 20+ meters, while IR penetrates only a few millionths of a meter.

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    2. There is another problem too. Many have claimed that CO2 will stay in the atmosphere a very long time. Think about the melt water from Greenland and how much CO2 it will absorb as sea levels rise. I just read an article predicting 35 billion tons (or was it tonnes? ) will be absorbed for every 200,000 cubic Km of ice melt flowing into the oceans. If true, how much and how effectively will the ocean strip out of atmosphere this immense amount of CO2. Of course, there are millions of cubic km of ice to be melted (including Antarctica). Somehow, this planet has kept the CO2 from running away during all the previous ice ages.

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  3. Please update the links: "relevant links: The influence of solar intensity at the ocean The ocean is cooler and the sea level rise decreases Climate models in the error affects ocean is much greater"

    This is outstanding work, I would love to have any/all references as to offer sound argument to my peers.

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